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Disney and YouTube TV stalemate drags on

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Last updated: November 13, 2025 6:16 pm
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A model of this text first appeared within the CNBC Sport e-newsletter with Alex Sherman, which brings you the most important information and unique interviews from the worlds of sports activities enterprise and media. Signal as much as obtain future editions, straight to your inbox. It is day 14 of the Disney – YouTube TV standoff. This marks the longest Disney carriage blackout ever, topping 2024’s DirecTV dispute, which lasted 13 days. From what I’ve heard, the perimeters have moved considerably nearer to creating a deal, with quite a lot of progress made prior to now 24 hours. I can confirm the perimeters have been discussing the settlement late into the night time final night time. Disney reported earnings this morning, and you realize executives are going to subject questions from analysts throughout the earnings name concerning the enterprise impression of the standoff. Morgan Stanley analyst Ben Swinburne estimates Disney is dropping $30 million every week its networks are off YouTube TV. Clearly it could have been good for Disney CEO Bob Iger to do a victory lap on the earnings name this morning, however I am advised that is not going to occur. I talked concerning the primary particulars of why Disney’s networks have been quickly faraway from YouTube TV in final week’s e-newsletter – you will discover it right here in case you care to refamiliarize your self. Given the progress, I wish to concentrate on three points I believe have been underreported or ignored prior to now two weeks. I will do my finest John McLaughlin impression right here … “Situation No. 1!” (What? You are telling me the youngsters studying this do not respect John McLaughlin impressions?) We do not know the precise value enhance Disney needs YouTube TV to pay for the appropriate to hold its suite of networks — the most costly of that are ESPN and ABC. However one quirk that is idiosyncratic to Disney is the corporate simulcasts sure “Monday Night time Soccer” video games on ABC. In different phrases, some “Monday Night time Soccer” video games are on each ESPN and ABC. Disney does this to permit cable and noncable subscribers to observe explicit video games. But it surely additionally permits the corporate to basically double cost pay TV suppliers by arguing the recognition of “Monday Night time Soccer” (the most well-liked program on cable TV by far) provides important worth to each ESPN and ABC. No different media firm that owns a broadcast community makes use of this simulcast technique. I do not know for certain if the Disney double-dipping challenge is especially irritating to YouTube TV, however Terrible Saying talked about it this week as a possible sticking level , and logic suggests it could be one. Nonetheless, this challenge hasn’t tripped up Disney from reaching carriage agreements with different giant suppliers — together with Comcast only a few weeks in the past — so I do not suppose it is an enormous deal, nevertheless it’s value noting as a sports activities angle to this huge combat. “Situation No. 2!” I discussed final week {that a} facet challenge of competition between Disney and YouTube TV is whether or not Disney’s streaming companies ought to be offered in YouTube’s Primetime Channels. I nonetheless suppose it is a minor challenge to pure economics, nevertheless it’s an fascinating one value some evaluation and rationalization. Channels enable somebody watching YouTube TV to entry premium networks and a few streaming companies inside the YouTube platform. Amazon Prime Video has a Channels retailer, too. For many media corporations, Channels is not a sticking level in a carriage deal. Warner Bros. Discovery has all the time offered HBO as an add-on channel, so it does not thoughts promoting HBO Max the identical method. The identical is true for Paramount, which has turned what was referred to as Showtime right into a premium cable community vessel for Paramount+ content material. Equally, NBCUniversal plans to launch a sports activities community in order that it could perform as a cable equal of Peacock for sports activities. That community will debut Monday — first only for YouTube TV subscribers. Consequently, HBO Max, Paramount+ and Peacock are all offered in each Amazon Channels and YouTube Primetime Channels. However Disney is not accessible on Amazon Channels, and it has advised YouTube TV that it has no intention of becoming a member of YouTube Channels. Disney needs its subscribers watching in its personal ecosystem. It has spent many hundreds of thousands of {dollars} to combine ESPN and Hulu into Disney+. It needs a direct relationship with its customers — and the info that comes with that. So why does YouTube TV care? It has to do with the quantity of content material that is unique to Disney’s subscription streaming companies. There are billions of {dollars} value of priceless programming — new and outdated — on Disney+ and Hulu that may’t be accessed with a typical cable subscription. That makes Disney completely different from Fox and NBCUniversal — different media corporations which have lately reached offers with YouTube TV. Whereas Peacock does have some unique leisure programming on its service that may’t be accessed by means of an NBCU cable channel, it is de minimis in contrast with what’s on Disney+ (which now contains each Hulu and ESPN). From what I have been advised, YouTube TV gave up early on the concept Disney+ can be in Channels. Nonetheless, YouTube TV continues to be pushing to have ESPN’s direct-to-consumer service accessible in YouTube TV — however not Channels. As an alternative, I am advised YouTube executives wish to make certain clients can have entry to any content material that is accessible on ESPN’s direct-to-consumer service (previously generally known as ESPN+, now generally known as ESPN Limitless as a result of it additionally contains all of ESPN’s programming – linear or digital) inside the YouTube TV viewing expertise. It is a little bit much like Disney’s take care of Constitution, the place Disney allowed Spectrum TV clients entry to Disney+, Hulu and ESPN+. However on this case, YouTube TV subscribers will not get free Disney+ and Hulu — they will solely get ESPN Limitless content material. YouTube does not wish to threat ESPN shifting sports activities programming from its linear community to ESPN Limitless over the subsequent few years after paying a fee enhance for ESPN’s linear networks on this deal. Disney might also add new sports activities simply to ESPN Limitless, such because the announcement a number of months in the past so as to add sure WWE premium dwell occasions simply to ESPN’s digital service. Prospects will be capable to see these inside YouTube TV. After all, ESPN may even give YouTube TV subscribers entry to the ESPN direct-to-consumer software by means of authentication — one thing that Disney hopes to roll out earlier than the tip of the yr for each Comcast and YouTube subscribers. “Situation No. 3!” Probably the most vital executives for Disney in all of its distribution offers for the previous 5 years has been Justin Connolly , most lately Disney’s president of platform distribution. Connolly left Disney to affix YouTube TV earlier this yr. The departure was such a giant deal that Disney sued YouTube for poaching him (and Connolly, himself, for breach of contract). That lawsuit settled simply earlier than Disney and YouTube TV started their blackout. Connolly has recused himself from these negotiations. A number of folks accustomed to Connolly’s affect at Disney have questioned if this blackout can be over by now had Connolly merely stayed at Disney. It isn’t simply that there could also be some dangerous blood between YouTube TV and Disney. It is that with out him, Iger, ESPN Chairman Jimmy Pitaro and Disney’s head of TV, Dana Walden , have misplaced a dependable in-house nearer on tense negotiations. A part of why these carriage negotiations may be troublesome is as a result of they comprise so-called most favored nation clauses, which assure that fee modifications are adjusted throughout opponents. The MFNs successfully make sure asks nonstarters, each for distributors and programmers. If YouTube TV needs dramatically higher charges in future years primarily based on projected development, these sorts of sliding-scale clauses would then should change into business commonplace. That is typically a bridge too far for content material suppliers, who must rewrite present contracts. Regardless of the specifics are on this case, nobody is aware of the distinction between possible and “not in your life” higher than Connolly. Having him away from the desk on this one — and actually working for the counterparty, even when he is not concerned within the deal talks — could also be a part of the issue. FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has now weighed in, posting Monday on X that “Google and Disney have to get a deal finished and finish this blackout. Individuals ought to have the appropriate to observe the programming they paid for — together with soccer. Get it finished!” From what I hear, a deal is far nearer than it has been over the previous two weeks. However as we sit right here this morning, the wait continues. *** One different fast sports-related notice – this one on the continuing saga of who Warner Bros. Discovery would promote itself to. Two weeks in the past, soon-to-be Comcast co-CEO Mike Cavanagh mentioned throughout the firm’s earnings convention name that Comcast can be keen on buying “streaming belongings and studio belongings,” given its upcoming spinoff of Versant, CNBC’s future mother or father firm and the brand new house to virtually all of NBCUniversal’s cable networks. This implies any deal between Comcast and Warner Bros. Discovery can be for HBO Max and the Warner Bros. studio however not WBD’s cable networks. This is smart. Why would Comcast desire a bunch of declining-revenue cable networks when it is within the means of spinning off its personal cable networks? Nonetheless, I questioned, would not NBCUniversal need TNT Sports activities? Including TNT Sports activities to NBC Sports activities would make Comcast a juggernaut for sports activities rights. Sure, TNT Sports activities misplaced the NBA this season, nevertheless it nonetheless owns the rights for MLB, the NCAA Males’s Basketball Championship, the NHL, U.S. Soccer, NASCAR, the French Open, and digital belongings together with Bleacher Report and Home of Highlights. So, I requested a number of well-placed sources, and this is my learn: Sure, NBCU would love TNT Sports activities. The issue is TNT Sports activities might be probably the most priceless a part of Discovery World, the half of WBD that Comcast does not need. That most likely makes including TNT Sports activities a moot level for NBCU. Both Comcast would wish to purchase the entire cable networks – one thing Cavanagh simply mentioned he had little interest in doing – or it could want to depart TNT Sports activities to go together with the remainder of WBD’s cable belongings in order that these companies can have a preventing probability of flourishing (and gaining future distribution when it has its personal carriage renewal offers) as a separate publicly traded entity. Disclosure: Comcast is the mother or father firm of NBCUniversal, which owns CNBC. Versant would change into the brand new mother or father firm of CNBC upon Comcast’s deliberate spinoff of Versant. On the document With Las Vegas Aces head coach Becky Hammon . … In only a few brief years, Hammon has change into one of the profitable skilled basketball head coaches of all time. After becoming a member of the Aces for the 2022 season, she’s received three of the final 4 WNBA titles. Her management is aided by A’ja Wilson , who once more received the WNBA MVP award this previous season for a record-setting fourth time. Final month, Hammon advised ESPN that “when it is all mentioned and finished,” Wilson would be the best WNBA participant of all time. Properly, with me, she went one step additional. Hammon advised me she’s already the GOAT. “I do suppose she’s the best to ever play,” Hammon advised me. “A profession of an athlete goes fast. Your prime years go fast. Life strikes fast. In the event you get an opportunity to observe this girl hoop, you must reap the benefits of it, as a result of she’s one of the thrilling gamers I’ve ever seen, male or feminine.” She additionally predicted the WNBA will transfer on from Cathy Engelbert as its commissioner after current tensions with gamers. “I might say they’re most likely going to search for a change in management,” Hammon mentioned. “I simply suppose it could be too fractured at this level.” You may watch our complete dialog right here . Or hear right here and observe the CNBC Sport podcast should you choose the audio model. Contessa’s Nook Yet one more sports activities betting scandal — this time in baseball — however this one got here with a near-immediate pivot from Main League Baseball and its sportsbook companions to restrict bets on pitches. Type of. Most bets of $200 on a person pitch and excluding pitch bets from parlays altogether might restrict earnings, however c’mon. Most gamblers with a penchant for micro-bets on whether or not the subsequent pitch will probably be a ball or strike aren’t wagering huge cash. All these bets have been already sometimes very small. And it is laborious to fathom why a extremely compensated pitcher like Emmanuel Clase would threat his hundreds of thousands in wage for 1000’s in betting kickbacks, as authorities are alleging. (His lawyer says he did not rig his pitches or share that data forward of time with gamblers.) So if athletes do not cheat for the cash – how is limiting the earnings going to dissuade them? FanDuel, DraftKings and Fanatics all advised me the current string of betting scheme busts illustrates their willingness to work with leagues and lawmakers to guard the integrity of sport. You may see my interview with FanDuel CEO Amy Howe right here . Howe highlights, for instance, that FanDuel prohibits bets it considers extra excessive threat for inappropriate affect — like these on subject objectives, free throws, turnovers and fouls throughout sports activities and will not allow prop bets on accidents or athletes on 10-day contracts or two-way gamers who transfer between main and minor leagues. I am watching to see whether or not regulators demand extra motion, as an example prohibiting any type of “beneath” prop bets – the place gamblers wager that an athlete will fail to perform a go or a putt or another endeavor. In any case, if sports activities fanatics wish to gamble on a quarterback finishing a go – it appears apparent that betting on go incompletion leaves open questions on whether or not the QB is deliberately throwing away the ball. These questions evaporate in case your solely possibility is to wager on success. By the best way, not a single analyst requested DraftKings concerning the sports activities betting scandals and its impression on the enterprise of the sportsbook throughout the firm’s current earnings convention name . Nor throughout FanDuel mother or father Flutter’s name. As an alternative, analysts are gaga over prediction markets – the alternatives and aggressive threats. FanDuel had information about launching its personal platform for occasion contracts in December. It is partnering with CME Group to supply prediction trades on all types of markets, together with sports activities, by means of FanDuel Predicts. Howe advised me the corporate might spend as a lot as $300 million advertising the prediction platform. “We expect this might be a really engaging development alternative for us,” she advised me. “We’re leaning in. … This isn’t one thing the place we’re ready and seeing how issues evolve.” The New York State Meeting has launched a regulation that may ban prediction markets from providing trades on sports activities (in addition to catastrophes, elections, deaths and securities). It additionally would require prediction platforms like Kalshi, Polymarket and Robinhood to incorporate drawback playing hotline data on their commercials in addition to institute instruments for accountable playing into their platforms. Kalshi insists it isn’t playing. It additionally says 9 out 10 People assist prediction markets, citing a survey performed by Axis and funded by Kalshi. The survey outcomes included gems like this: “Voters Reject Gaming Fee Meddling in Futures: 80% of respondents agree with the assertion that ‘Shopping for a inventory or investing sooner or later value of wheat just isn’t playing and shouldn’t be regulated by a state gaming fee.'” Victor Rocha , convention chair of the Indian Gaming Affiliation, supplied a unique soak up a put up on X : “Kalshi analysis funded by Kalshi says Kalshi’s clients imagine Kalshi is the perfect, says Kalshi worker.” Tribal leaders are understandably livid concerning the inroads prediction markets are making. They only misplaced a preliminary injunction towards Kalshi in California that sought to stop Kalshi from providing trades on tribal lands. Possibly the rise of prediction platforms will lead tribes to revisit sports activities betting with business operators. Or possibly they will attempt providing prediction platforms themselves. Simply keep in mind, in terms of sports activities prediction markets, whoever tells you it is a finished deal is solely making a prediction. CNBC Sport spotlight reel The very best of CNBC Sport from the previous week: The Snow League has raised $15 million in new funding. What’s The Snow League? It is Shaun White ‘s snow sports activities startup. White needs a snowboarding and snowboarding league to exist outdoors of the Olympics. It is a related concept to Alexis Ohanian ‘s wager on Athlos , a ladies’s monitor league. White stopped by “Squawk Field” to speak about his league and its plans to achieve visibility. PrizePicks is the newest sports activities betting enterprise to broaden into prediction markets. It permits PrizePicks to enter new states and develop its enterprise. CEO Mike Ybarra additionally joined “Squawk Field” to speak concerning the variations between on-line sports activities betting and prediction markets. CNBC’s Jim Cramer is holding Nike in his charitable belief regardless of the corporate’s current turmoil. Financial institution of America analysts agree, writing in a notice to shoppers this week that “the current pullback since first-quarter earnings gives a very engaging shopping for alternative,” citing continued gross sales and margin enhancements as Nike’s innovation pipeline ramps up. The large quantity: $6 billion If there’s any doubt that Formulation 1 is huge enterprise, Mercedes Formulation 1 CEO and staff principal Toto Wolff is in superior talks to promote a portion of his 33% stake within the staff at a $6 billion valuation, Sportico reported this week. ESPN adopted with a report that the customer is CrowdStrike CEO George Kurtz, and the Monetary Occasions reviews the scale of the stake is 5%. Quote of the Week “Principally, Patrick was like, he feels horrible for the commerce and desires to make it as much as us.” 18-year-old Nicholas Dickason advised The Athletic this week Dallas Mavericks proprietor Patrick Dumont apologized for buying and selling Luka Dončić in February. Dickason spoke to Dumont courtside at a current Mavs recreation sporting a Lakers Dončić jersey. The dialog was swiftly adopted by the information that Dumont had fired normal supervisor Nico Harrison , the architect of the commerce – simply 9 months after pulling off the a lot maligned blockbuster. Across the league The NWSL has awarded its newest growth staff to Atlanta. The staff will probably be owned by Arthur Clean , who additionally owns the NFL’s Falcons, MLS’ Atlanta United FC and Atlanta Drive GC of TGL. The membership will start play within the spring of 2028. It will likely be the seventeenth NWSL staff. Versant’s sports activities media holdings will now be generally known as USA Sports activities . The NBA plans to make $14.3 billion in income this yr, up 12% from final yr’s $12.75 billion, in response to Sportico . Goldman Sachs’ non-public fairness arm is taking a majority funding in Excel Sports activities Administration, the sports activities company that represents athletes together with Caitlin Clark , Tiger Woods and Nikola Jokić , in response to The Athletic.

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